Frederick Vail

Profile Updated: May 23, 2013
Tell us about your life since HS graduation

Entered Sac State in the fall, was a member of their A Cappella choir and concerts chairman on the Activities Board, worked on the air at KJML-FM in the evenings, studying for exams while playing Broadway shows--would play one side, study, do a spot, give the time, then flip the album over, play the "B" side and get back to my books. Was supplimenting my meager $2 an hour wage by booking grad parties and teen clubs--that all changed on May 24, 1963 when I promoted a concert at the Sac Memorial Aud headining "The Beach Boys." As it turned out, it was their first major appearance. It was a fund raiser for the Class of 63--who had asked me to book their grad party in June. Problem was, they had a total of $750 for the whole affair. That would not have gotten them much more than a venue and food. I suggested 'rolling the dice,' taking their $750 and booking a band as a fundraiser. It was a huge success--the class and I split $4,000 that night (unfortunately, not 50/50. I got $600 which was a lot of money for a kid in 1963!) The "boys" made $50 or $60 a piece, which was a lot for them. Believe it or not, they were making $350 to $500 a night at the time. I'd paid them $750 on behalf of the class, but that included an allowance for six round trip airline tickets from LAX:) They simply couldn't believe the class and I had made 4 grand! I said they should start producing their own shows, not relying on agents and promoters to make all the money. But they didn't have the time. Mike was going through his first divorce, Carl and Dave were in high school, Brian was busy writing songs, and Denny spent his days on the beach, 'surfing.' In fact, he was the ONLY Beach Boy who actually surfed! Alan was trying to decide whether he should go back to pre-dentistry or stay in the BB's. I think AJ made the right decision, don't you? Murry Wilson, the father of Brian, Dennis and Carl, hired me that night as their first advance man--and marketing manager. I became their personal manager in June 1969. Ran their label, traveled the world, joined Capitol Records, then RCA, as a promotion and marketing exec. Got to work with many of my heroes..Waylon Jennings, Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, John Denver and numerous others. Moved to Nashville in '74, founded Treasure Isle Recorders in 1980. Been here 33 years--we're the oldest indie studio in Music City, USA that is still under it's original ownership. Again, got to work with even more heroes: Dolly, Alabama, James Taylor, The Byrds, Charlie Pride, Michael W. Smith, Emmylou Harris, and the late Johnny Cash, Isaac Hayes, Billy Preston. Recorded the debut albums of Travis Tritt, Highway 101, Desert Rose Band, Pam Tillis, Foster and Lloyd, and Jason Aldean, who's been recording with me for over ten years. Jason had the top selling country album of 2011--"My Kinda Party," which had a record setting five #1 singles and went Triple Platinum. His latest is "Night Train," already certified Platinum and has already had two #1 singles as of this writing (Feb 12, 2013). But as I pointed out to Joe who thankfully runs this site, keep in mind I don't get a 'royalty,' only 'bragging rights!' I've been truly blessed to have found a career I would have been glad to do for 'free' and have managed to make a living at it for the past 50 years. We're all 'survivors,' friends and classmates. I was amazed at the number of classmates that didn't make it 50 years. We really are blessed to be survivors. If any of you who may happen to visit Nashville down the road, please look me up. I love showing off "Music City, USA." Call me at 615.297.0700.

Where do you live now, and what are your favorite activities at present?

Keeping up with my 14 year old daughter, Taylor, who just was 'promoted' from Middle School to high school on Monday, May 13. She made the honor roll all three years. She plays clarinet and oboe--is a Blue Ribbon model and has won multiple sewing competitions in the Williamson county 4-H, a Senior Girl Scout and--get this--a rapper to boot:) She wants to attend Vanderbilt University here--where my wife, Debbie, is Business Manager in the Office Of Undergraduate Admissions. As to me, I enjoy photography, travel, SCUBA diving, collecting movie and music memorabilia and my '55 Bel Air Chevy, which I hope to sell this year so I can do some work on our home:)

Any favorite memories from High School?

The great teachers, the fellowship, the Friday night games at Abbott Field, the concerts I put on in the "Boy's Gym" as Commissioner of Entertainment. You were witness to the early careers of Smokey Robinson and The Miracles, who had just had their first #1 record, "Shop Around," Jan & Dean, a year or more before "Surf City," star of "The Rifleman," and television icon--and the Justin Beiber of his era--Johnny Crawford, also Bobby Freeman, The Diamonds and a few others. We were all fortunate to attend EC when it was considered one of the top high schools in California. I was blessed to have had a lifelong friendship with my favorite teacher, Paul Moser, and was honored to speak at his Memorial Service. Paul was a mentor and hero for well over 30 years. At a reception after his service I spent some time with Jackie Kelly, John Otter, Coach Ernst, and a few other ECHS staff. I understand that Jackie has since passed.

Can you share any remembrances of favorite teachers/coaches/administrators at ECHS?

Some of you know of my lifelong (until he passed away) friendship with Paul Moser. Paul was the chairman of the Social Science Department during our four years at EC. I went to summer school one year just to take another class from him. In our senior year I was his teacher assistant. I was truly honored to be asked by his wife, Berniece, to speak at his funeral. I hope that all of you had at least one ''Paul Moser'' in the course of your education. Paul was a role model and inspiration. RIP, ''PV.'' I also enjoyed Mr. Studley, journalism advisor, Mr. Teal (drama), Tom Armstrong (Cadets).

Tell us about your family--children, grandchildren?

Taylor, 14 (see above) and wife Debbie. No grandkids....I just put two shotguns on lay-a-way to avoid that!!!! :)

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Posted on: Apr 02, 2019 at 2:33 PM

Great to read about your accomplishments in public service. We certainly had a number of 'leaders' among our classmates at ECHS. Your lucky to live in the Puget Sound wife, Debbie, grew up in Seattle and the Tri-Cities, which was were I met her in 1995. We have looked at the Oregon and Washington coast as a possible retirement destination. but I have no intention of retiring:) Love Middle TN and the music biz to much and still have my studio which I started 40 years ago. We're now the 3rd oldest studio in Nashville still under it's original ownership and management. As to public service, while most know me as a former manager of The Beach Boys and a studio owner, in my 'other life' I ran for the US House of Representatives twice. losing in the primary in '84 and as the Reagan Republican nominee in '86, losing to the incumbent Democrat. That span of four years were among the happiest times of my life. My platform included term limits, a flat tax, strong defense, and a self directed IRA type of system to provide an additional safety net for a failing Social Seurity System. 35 years later nothing has been done in the majority of these cases. Term limits would dramatically help the system and problems we are seeing today. Have a great remainder of the year!

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Mar 28, 2019 at 3:29 PM

As I just wrote your lovely sister, I'll send my birthday greetings a bit early this year, as opposed to late, as it was last year:) Spring has finally come to Middle TN and it's sunny and mid-70's today. It was a pretty cold winter, but, fortunately, no much snow. Remembering, fondly, our childhood escapades and travels--and those fab years at Orville Wright, Starr King and ECHS. So glad our families were so close and our dear mother's great friendship and bond. Have a great birthday, and a great remainder of 2019! Fred (and Debbie)

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Mar 28, 2019 at 3:23 PM

Okay, this time I'll be a week early instead of a little late:) Just heard from Gary regarding a niece (or nephew) who will be moving to Nashville in the not-too-distant-future. I beat the 'rush' and moved here 45 years ago:) Never looked back. Love it here...the quality of life, the Conservative (well, for the most part) politics, no state income tax and certainly the 'cost of living.' I do miss my occassional visits to the 'left coast,' as I don't travel as much as I did a few years ago. I lost an Aunt and a second cousin, who was more like a 'big' sister, in the past two months. Mary Jean had lived with us when we were in San Francisco and before we moved to Long Beach, then Sacramento. She was 88, Aunt Gladys was in her mid 90's, 97 if memory serves me correctly. Definitely lead a great live and was active until the very end. Hope you and your sister have a great day. Regards to the families. Taylor is a sophomore pre-med student at Cornell, and is hopefully doing a summer internship at Vandy Medical Center in late May or June. Have a great remainder of '19 and no more 'falls.' :) Fred (and Debbie)

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Another year, another Happy Birthday to a fantastic ECHS '62 classmate and friend. Hope you have a 'fun, fun, fun' day, Melinda!

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Jul 22, 2018 at 4:22 PM

Just ran across a reminder of our phone chat. Hope you're doing well. Always enjoy talking to our fellow classmates, and, better yet, a visit. Have seen at least 10 or 12, or more, of our ECHS classmates. Always 'fun, fun, fun.' Stay in touch.

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Jul 22, 2018 at 4:11 PM

PC crashed! Hope this isn't a repeat post:) A Belated Happy Birthday, Ann. Hope you had a 'fun, fun, fun' day. And thanks for your continued dedication to the class for all the work you have put into our reunions. Have a great summer and another great year ahead. Your ECHS classmate, Fred, Franklin, TN -- 20 miles south of Music City, USA. Visit us sometime!

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Posted on: Jun 18, 2018 at 1:14 AM

Remembering the 'good old days' at Orville Wright, Starr King and ECHS...particularly A Cappella...singing along to the greatest pianist at EC! Glad that music has continued to play a significant part of your life. You have a God-given gift meant to be shared. Have a great summer of 'fun, fun, fun.' Hope you folks can get down to Nashville one of these days. I believe you're in New England...CT???? Could not recall. Taylor is entering her sophomore year at Cornell....a pre-med student....we're very proud of her. She's home for summer and heading to Chicago and Indy on Tuesday to see some rock bands with one of her girl friends....she's 'discovered' vinyl so that makes me happy! Have a great summer! Remembering Arden Oaks and so many wonderful times....Happy Birthday again! Fred

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May 20, 2018 at 7:47 PM

Greetings from Franklin, TN, Ron, and a very Happy Birthday to one of my oldest and dearest friends. Great times growing up in the 50's, 60's, attending school at Orville Wright, Starr King, ECHS...then those fun days after HS when we worked on some shows, and, of course, those days in Denver, and the Teen-Age Fair. 6th and Wadsworth, 10th and Corona. You stayed, I left, and headed back to Hollywood. You became a Sheriff, met Patty, and were part of the tragedy of Columbine. To say the least, we've lead a pretty interesting life, old friend. Say 'hi' to Patty. We had a great visit last summer on your turf, now your turn to come here:) Have a great day.

Fred and Debbie

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Apr 21, 2018 at 4:33 PM

?thanks for posting this,'s just past 1 PM here, and they should be saying 'good-bye' to Tyke at his service in Citrus Heights. I just posted a tribute to Tyke on my Facebook page. Lots of memories, lots of great times we had growing up when we did. We are all lucky to have grown up at a time when the USA, was the greatest, and, perhaps, most feared nation in the world. We had helped our European allies lick Hitler and Nazism, we had defeated Imperial Japan. We were looked up with respect. Our leaders were strong, and each person, regardless of upbringing, station in life, political persausion, were behing the USA--and it's leadership. Regardless of their Liberal or Conservative views, it seems all were united behind FDR and Ike. Life was good. 



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Apr 19, 2018 at 8:33 PM

Hi, John,  Thanks for your kind remembrance of Tyke--since moving to the South over 45 years ago, I did not get out to the coast as often as I used to, particularly since my parents, brother and sister-in-law passed. I visited with Tyke and Nelda when I came out for the 50th reunion and when Nelda called, I was stunned. Tyke and I grew up across the street from each other on Winding Creek Road...he was my oldest friend. Miss him greatly. If you go to the viewing or service this weekend, please pass along my love and condolences to Nelda and the family.



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Apr 17, 2018 at 4:33 PM




?Greetings from Franklin, TN, Steve, 

and 'thanks' for updating us on Tyke's memorial service and visitation. I wish I could be there with his family--and friends--including several of our classmates--but time and distance prevents that. I will reach out to Nelda and let her know that I will be there 'in sprit.' Tyke, as I pointed out when I learned of his passing, was my oldest friend...we go back to 3rd grade and lived across from each other on Winding Creek. 

We're at time that we are losing those folks we grew up with, who helped nurture us, and it's sad to learn of the passing of someone like Tyke that was a part of some of the best years of my life. The memories I have of him, and also our four years at ECHS with so many others, helped shape our lives. I am forever grateful for the time I had with Tyke and particularly cherish the time I had with him (and Ken Miller) at our 50th reunion.

Fred 615.297.0700





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Apr 17, 2018 at 1:42 PM

Joan, a belated Happy Birthday! I know I asked Judi in my Facebook past to tell you the same but we must not be FB 'friends.' I guess being real life 'friends' for about 65 years doesn't count much in today's social media world! Regards to you and the family. Is Jim still in the DC area? Have a great summer and hope to visit again soon. Fred (and Debbie, and Taylor, who is in her second semester, Freshman year, at Cornell). 615,297.0700

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